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[ 39147 ] Posté par « melodie » le 24-3-2015 à 13:53 (visible pendant encore loooooooongtemps.)

 

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  1. <cjwatson> melodie: It's in the pool, not in the squashfs; manifest only lists the latter.  See .list
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  4. <melodie> hi cjwatson
  5. <cjwatson> The pool has various packages as .debs that don't make sense in the squashfs but need to be available for optional or opportunistic installation.
  6. <cjwatson> Arguably grub-pc shouldn't be in the squashfs either, but there's probably some reason it's tedious to avoid.
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  8. <melodie> is that why the command "apt-cache policy grub-efi" doesn't show it as installed?
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  10. <cjwatson> It won't show it as installed if you're looking in a live session, no.
  11. <melodie> I mean in the live
  12. <melodie> ok
  13. <cjwatson> That's expected and normal.
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  15. <cjwatson> Though I also wouldn't expect literally "grub-efi" to be installed, since that's a transitional package.
  16. <melodie> where in the iso is the pool? Is it even there?
  17. <cjwatson> It's carefully hidden in the top-level directory named "pool"
  18. <melodie> that would be grub-efi-amd64 or so perhaps?
  19. <cjwatson> Just to make it hard for you to find
  20. <cjwatson> It would be grub-efi-amd64, yes
  21. <melodie> ok
  22. <melodie> one more that none knew, if you don't mind. Do Windows updates risk to damage the Grub installed bootloader later, making the access to Ubuntu impossible? (my user isn't a tech person)
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  24. <cjwatson> I'm very much not a Windows expert.  My understanding is that that is not normally a problem, though.
  25. <melodie> ok :)
  26. <cjwatson> Some Windows applications fiddle about with the boot area in nasty ways, but GRUB takes countermeasures to protect itself from that.
  27. <melodie> oh? !
  28. <cjwatson> It has built-in error correction code so that it can survive a small number of its own sectors being overwritten.
  29. <melodie> are there official docs about the actual state of dual-boot with Windows 8/8.1?
  30. <cjwatson> Of course not if another full-blown boot loader is installed over the top.
  31. <cjwatson> No idea.
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  33. <melodie> alright, thank you.

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